Sur le lien en anglais à la page ci-dessous vous pourrez constater que l'amulette représentant Dionysos prouve plutôt que ce sont les païens qui ont copiés sur le christianisme.Redolph a écrit :Abdel, pourrait tu étayer tes propos par des liens, car par exemple, je ne trouve pas de trace de la crucifixion de Dyonisos.
http://www.about-jesus.org/paganism.htm
Voici ce que dit le site :
Bacchus/Dionysus - crucifixion
Some scholars and writers allege many more similarities between Dionysus and Jesus, including a claim that Dionysus was resurrected.
One source for this claim grows out of the Semele-related vein of his mythology, in which he is born to a female deity, torn to pieces by Titans, re-gestated by Semele who is accidentally incinerated, and then sewn into the thigh of Zeus/Jupiter, until he reaches full term for the second time, and is born for the second time, from the thigh of Zeus/Jupiter. Even granting the underlying assumption that the New Testament authors, who were first-century Jews, would have viewed this as a death and resurrection, the tradition still is remarkably different than the death and resurrection of Jesus in the New Testament.
Bacchus
Amulet, perhaps a forgery, supposedly showing a crucified Bacchus, possibly from the third century AD.
Perhaps a more inventive claim that Christianity "borrowed" the crucifixion motif from paganism comes from an image on the book cover of The Jesus Mysteries. On one edition of that book, the cover shows an amulet depicting a crucifixion. The image is striking. It looks very much like any number of modern-day pendants depicting Jesus on the cross. But, on the lower part of the amulet is the inscription of the name of Bacchus (Dionysus).
The image has been copied and displayed on a variety of Web pages that use it as part of an argument against the validity of Christianity.
To the uninformed viewer, the amulet might appear to bolster claims that Christianity was influenced by the Bacchus/Dionysus tradition. But a closer look reveals problems with the amulet:
1. The image on the book cover is not a photograph of the actual amulet. Instead, it is an artist's rendition of the amulet. And the artist's rendition is not based on the actual amulet itself. Instead, it is based on a line drawing of the amulet, which is said to have been destroyed or lost during the Second World War.
2. The amulet is dated by scholars as having been created two centuries, or more, after the crucifixion of Jesus. If the dating is accurate, it would be impossible for the New Testament to have been influenced by it.
3. It is unknown if the amulet is truly of pagan origin.
One of the first scholars to provide a date for the amulet was Robert Eisler, in his Orpheus - The Fisher. Eisler claimed that the amulet was created during the third or fourth century, which would be two or three centuries after the writing of the New Testament and its account of the crucifixion of Jesus.
In fact, Eisler concludes, however reliably or unreliably, that the amulet does not show a crucified pagan but that it actually shows a crucified Jesus. And, it should be noted that Eisler was not a pro-Christian scholar. His writings provide ample evidence of antagonistism towards Christianity.
A third century AD date for the amulet is assigned in Orpheus and Greek Religion, published in 1952, by WKC Guthrie, in a caption that explains an illustration of the amulet.
In a 1993 reprint edition of Orpheus and Greek Religion, there is an added footnote that quotes a review from Otto Kern, a German scholar, in which Kern states that he believes the amulet "is almost certainly a fake." Kern also cites a few other scholars who question the authenticity of the amulet.
The amulet, if indeed it ever existed, would function better as an example that pagans copied from Christianity, rather than the other way around.
One of the early Christian writers who documented examples of pagan cults imitating Christian rites was Justin Martyr, who lived during the second century AD. From his perspective within the second century, he wrote that there were no examples of pagan traditions involving a pagan deity being crucified:
"But in no instance, not even in any of those called sons of Jupiter, did they imitate the being crucified; for it was not understood by them, all the things said of it having been put symbolically." - Justin Martyr's First Apology LV.
Dionysus, as we recall, was a son of Zeus. And a second century AD source, one who was familiar with examples of paganism imitating Christianity, wrote that this was one element of Christianity that the pagans had not yet copied.
