Peu importe qui a tort ou raison. ce qui est important, c'est de chercher.HumanaFragilita a écrit : L'un de nous deux a tort.
a) Pour abonder dans mon sens, il faudrait adopter le point de vue rationaliste. Car pour départager deux hypothèses, le rationalisme utilise la formule suivante : "les hypothèses suffisantes les plus simples sont les plus vraisemblables".
b) Pour abonder dans ton sens, il faudrait être... irrationnel. Tu choisiras peut-être un autre mot, du genre "spiritualiste" ou je ne sais quoi d'autre. Tu te défendras peut-être aussi d'être un esprit plus rationnel et plus ouvert que le mien, puisque tu es capable d'envisager des hypothèses aussi audacieuses que celles d'un Billy Meier (qui expliquent tant de choses qui n'étaient pas du tout claires avant), mais cela ne fera aucune différence.
Cordialement.
Je voulais du coup, chercher des références de vidéos faites par Stéphane Allix qui est un vrai reporter d'investigation.
Je suis tombé sur cette vidéo :
http://youtu.be/wZ5GGQstPbk
qui parle notamment du cas de l'école de Ruwa. (Rencontre du 3e type entre 2 ETs et 60 enfants)
Un professeur d'Harvard , John Mack, est venu enquêter sur cette affaire. il a notamment eu un prix pulitzer et un prix nobel de la paix. (J'utilise un argument d'autorité et je n'aime pas ça sachant qu'Obama, l'EU et le Dalai Lama ont aussi eu le prix Nobel de la paix, ce qui pour moi invalide cette distinction.)
Je me permets de retranscrire ce qui est écrit sur lui et qui fait étrangement écho à notre débat (en anglais si ça ne te dérange pas) :
Dr. John Mack was a highly respected tenured Harvard professor — brilliant, skeptical and mainstream. Handsome and charismatic, John Mack counted the Rockefellers, British aristocracy and the Dali Lama among his friends. His awards included a Nobel Peace Prize that he shared with an international association of doctors against nuclear arms, and a Pulitzer Prize for his psychoanalytic biography of Lawrence of Arabia. John believed in academia and in the practice of psychiatry as a pathway to understanding the world. But his adherence to these traditions did not protect him when he declared that people who claimed to have been abducted by aliens were not only telling the truth, but that what they'd learned from their experiences is crucial to the survival of humankind. By the end of his life, John Mack was regarded by some as a visionary and modern-day Galileo, and by others as a fool who’d made an error of historic proportions.
Dr. John E. Mack ...in his own words:
"I have come to realize this alien encounter phenomenon forces us, if we permit ourselves to take it seriously, to re-examine our perception of human identity – to look at who we are from a cosmic perspective. "These phenomena tell us many things about ourselves and the universe that challenge the dominant materialistic paradigm. They reveal that our understanding of reality is extremely limited, the cosmos is more mysterious than we have imagined, there are other intelligences all about (some of which may be able to reach us), and our knowledge of the properties of the physical world is far from complete.
"The secular assumptions about reality, dominant during my university training, were in fact a grand illusion, a materialist superstition that had kept Western thought stranded and imprisoned for the last 300 years. How do the keepers of the dying, yet more traditional paradigm respond to these phenomena? Many raise the cry of ‘pseudoscience’. "The methods of science – hypothesis, testing, rigor, experimentation, control – are valuable and essential for studying phenomena that reside primarily in the material world. But they may be inadequate for exploring matters that straddle the visible and unseen realms. They surely are insufficient for learning about realities beyond the manifest. Here we must rely more upon experience, intuition, non-ordinary states of consciousness, and holistic or heart knowing, thoughtfully and rigorously applied. "The alien encounter experience seems almost like an outreach program from the cosmos to the consciously impaired. "So for me, a journey that began with the investigation of a strange anomaly, has led to a greater appreciation of the gift of being and a deeper commitment to helping to preserve the life of the planet and its infinite possibilities.”
Ten days before John's death he told a colleague, “If anyone asks, tell them I'm not crazy.”
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